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Virtual Legality Episode 66

Shenmue 3: The Legal Hurdles to Seeking a Refund

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With Shenmue 3 becoming the latest in a long line of Epic Games Store exclusives, some original Kickstarter backers are crying foul. But do they have a legal leg to stand on?

What promises did Shenmue developer Ys Net make in its original Kickstarter campaign?

How could communications later made with backers affect those promises?

What do the Kickstarter terms and conditions have to do with it, and what do they say?

And how do the current Kickstarter terms make things so difficult for backers, even more than earlier versions of the very same terms?

You don't have to read our terms and conditions in...Virtual Legality.

#Shenmue3 #Kickstarter #VirtualLegality


Discussed in this episode:

"Some Shenmue III Kickstarter backers want refunds because it’s an Epic Games Store exclusive"
The Verge - June 10, 2019 - Adi Robertson
(https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/10/18660126/shenmue-3-epic-games-store-exclusive-backers-angry-steam-key-refund-request-e3-2019)

"Best look at this Shemue 3 Steam page quickly, because it's about to be deleted/edited"
Tweet - June 10, 2019 - Lewie Procter
(https://twitter.com/LewieP/status/1138148018006503425)

Shenmue 3 Campaign Page
Kickstarter
(https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ysnet/shenmue-3/description)

Kickstarter Terms of Use
Updated May 25, 2018
(https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use)

Kickstarter Terms of Use
Updated October 19, 2014
(https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/sept2014)

Kickstarter Terms of Use
Updated October 2012
(https://www.kickstarter.com/terms-of-use/oct2012)


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"Virtual Legality" is a continuing series discussing the law, video games, software, and everything digital, hosted by Richard Hoeg, of the Hoeg Law Business Law Firm (Hoeg Law).

Rick has practiced for more than a decade at some of the country's largest law firms, representing IT, software, video game, and other technology companies, as well as the individuals and institutions which fund them.

DISCUSSION IS PROVIDED FOR INFORMATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS LEGAL ADVICE. INDIVIDUALS INTERESTED IN THE LEGAL TOPICS DISCUSSED IN THIS VIDEO SHOULD CONSULT WITH THEIR OWN COUNSEL.

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